Jason & I talk with meditation and dharma teacher Vince Horn about the layers of the self, the ladder of abstraction, metadharma, post-capitalism, and much more!

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In this episode of Both/And

Buddhist Geeks

David Chapman on Meaningness

David Chapman on Development Stages & Robert Kegan

Integral Theory

Pragmatic Dharma

Twitter Q&A

Vince's Homepage

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