Jason & I talk with Nathan Spears about his journey from religion to atheism and back again, Orthodox Christianity, modernizing religion, Vervaeke's four ways of knowing, the value of Christian language & story, bridging phenomenology & epistemology, the dynamics of belief, attention & intention, perennial philosophy, the body of Christ, and much more.

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In this episode of Both/And

Nathan on Twitter

Cognitive Science & the Sacred with Vervaeke & Pageau

God & Relevance Realization with Vervaeke & Pageau

Dominion by Tom Holland

#15 Being a Baha'i Creative with Samah Tokmachi

The Cloud of Unknowing

The Mind Illuminated by John Yates

Enneagram of Personality

Hammering Hot Iron by Charles Upton

People Mentioned

David Chapman, John Vervaeke, Daniel Thorson, Collin Morris, Jordan Hall, Guy Sengstock, Jonathan Pageau, Shinzen Young, David Bentley Hart

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