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#45 Both/And Awards
Jason & I come back one more time to catch up & give out 5 awards each to stand-out Both/And episodes.
Jason & I come back one more time to give awards to stand-out Both/And episodes. First, we talk about what they've been up to for the past couple of months and then get to the awards: Most Convivial, Most Intellectually Stimulating, Most Challenging to My Worldview, Most Star-Struck, & MVP. Along the way, we also make a bunch of honorable mentions.
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Donella Meadows' paper, Leverage Points
Tyson Yunkaporta's book, Sand Talk
#30 Aesthetic Embodiment with Rachel Haywire
#4 Climate Change Adaptation & Meditation with Udita Sanga
#24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze with Justin Murphy
#9 Analyzing Both And with Nathan Snyder
#2 Memetic Mediation with Peter Limberg
Award Winners
#22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality with Jessica
#37 Dancing with COVID with Sarah McManus
#42 The Ever-Present with Jeremy Johnson
#25 Horrorism & Culture with Zero HP Lovecraft
#29 Reducing Suffering with Evan Sandhoefner
#14 Paradigm Shifting with Erik Davis
#19 Contextualizing the Spiritual with Jordan Hall
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#42 The Ever-Present
We talk with Jeremy Johnson about Jean Gebser’s work — time, integral consciousness & evolution, limits of abstraction, spiritual themes, meta-theories, & more.
Jason & I talk with Jeremy Johnson about what led to his interest in Jean Gebser, the nebulosity of time, non-linear consciousness evolution & developmental theory, Gebser's poetic disposition & extraordinary writing style, the un-perspectival world, integral consciousness, the limits of intellect & complex abstraction, the ever-present, mythical consciousness, pattern & nebulosity, wholeness & the spiritual elements of Gebser's work, process orientation vs systemization, maps as living systems, comparing Gebser's view to Integral levels, the danger of meta-theories, the value of pop art, and more.
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Jeremy's book, Seeing Through the World
The Ever-Present Origin by Jean Gebser
The Phenomenon of Man by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
The Progress of This Storm by Andreas Malm
Jeremy's Side View article, Meta, Modern
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001 swimming in the unknown
I introduce myself & this new podcast, with Jared Janes.
In this inaugural episode of with Jared Janes, I introduce myself and this new podcast.
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#41 Simpol Global Action
We talk with John Bunzl about why he started Simpol & how it enables global cooperation, UN target failures, partisanship, biomimicry, diversity & locality, & more.
Jason & I talk with John Bunzl about why he started Simpol & how it enables global cooperation, his multi-issue approach to global issues, UN target failures, first-mover criteria, the democratic accountability strategy, partisanship, global pandemic preparation, efficiency vs resilience, power in metrics, cooperative competition, biomimicry in Simpol, Simpol's history & progress, the role of the nation-state, regional cooperation, diversity & locality, tyranny, getting involved, and more. (recorded 4/21/20)
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The Good, the True, & the Beautiful Series
Recordings of a Stoa series where I talk about what it means to embrace the Good, the True, & the Beautiful in everyday life.
In this four-part series that I hosted on the Stoa I talk about how I’ve personally come to understand what it means to embrace & express the Good, the True, & the Beautiful in everyday life.
I hope watching the replays is helpful even though the breakout sessions that happened on the live call are not included (these breakouts included rich discussions between all who attended the live session).
Part 1: The True
Part 2: The Good
Part 3: The Beautiful
Part 4: Method
#40 Humility, Spirituality & Q&A
We talk about humility, Patreon, embodiment, nonduality & enlightenment, guru abuse, emerging modern spirituality, & more.
Jason & I talk about humility, memetic mediation, Patreon goals & perks, acting from uncertainty, embodiment & trauma/baggage, map vs territory, individual vs group development, mindfulness, compassion, nonduality & enlightenment, tantric practice, guru abuse, emerging modern spirituality & the limitations of intellect, the void, subtle sensations & the brilliance of the mundane, constructed cognition, what we're both concentrated on at the moment, and more.
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Jared's The Good, the True, the Beautiful Series
B/A: #39 Enabling Collaboration with Richard Bartlett
#34 Reimagining Religion
We talk with Nathan Spears about his journey from religion to atheism and back again, Orthodox Christianity, John Vervaeke, perennial philosophy & more.
Jason & I talk with Nathan Spears about his journey from religion to atheism and back again, Orthodox Christianity, modernizing religion, Vervaeke's four ways of knowing, the value of Christian language & story, bridging phenomenology & epistemology, the dynamics of belief, attention & intention, perennial philosophy, the body of Christ, and much more.
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Cognitive Science & the Sacred with Vervaeke & Pageau
God & Relevance Realization with Vervaeke & Pageau
#15 Being a Baha'i Creative with Samah Tokmachi
The Mind Illuminated by John Yates
Hammering Hot Iron by Charles Upton
People Mentioned
David Chapman, John Vervaeke, Daniel Thorson, Collin Morris, Jordan Hall, Guy Sengstock, Jonathan Pageau, Shinzen Young, David Bentley Hart
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#35 Erotic Potential with Debby Friday
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#31 Conscious Evolution
We talk with Rob Cobbold about what led him to Conscious Evolution, antinatalism, spirituality, consciousness, global governance, alt currencies, societal future, & much more.
Jason & I talk with Rob Cobbold about what led him to orient his life towards Conscious Evolution & what its core components are, the shortsightedness of antinatalism, spirituality & dualism, consciousness & ethics, limits of materialism & rationality, global governance, money, debt & interest, alternative currencies, societal flourishing, collapse & much more.
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Sex, Ecology, Spirituality by Ken Wilber
Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert M Pirsig
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#30 Aesthetic Embodiment
We talk with Rachel Haywire about her presidential candidacy, art & philosophy, the memetic tribal landscape, memes & aesthetics, embodiment & pain/suffering, VR & much more!
Jason & I talk with Rachel Haywire about her presidential candidacy, what led her to art & philosophy, the art right, her view of the memetic tribal landscape, the power of memes, her critique on Jared & Jason's meta tribe, the role & power of aesthetics, psychic fascism, the challenges & benefits of embodiment, pain & suffering, spiritual materialism, embodied VR, politics as aesthetic, tribal immune systems, memetic fashion, the 'NPC' meme, transgressive arts, and much more!
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#29 Reducing Suffering
We talk with Evan Sandhoefner about utilitarianism, pluralistic ethics, suffering & how it may affect animals & humans differently, consciousness, ethical meat production, & much more.
Jason & I talk with Evan Sandhoefner about what led him to utilitarianism & effective altruism, the flexibility of utilitarianism & some critiques, pluralistic virtue ethics, whether suffering is necessary & how it may affect animals & humans differently, whether we should remove wild predators to prevent animal suffering, creating unintentional animal suffering, consciousness, ethical meat production & factory farming, localism, universal explainers vs computers, intelligence, and more.
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The Beginning of Infinity by David Deutsch
The Ego Tunnel by Thomas Metzinger
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#28 Grokking Holochain
We talk with the Commercial Director of Holochain, David Atkinson about why he joined the Holo team, elements of Holochain, how they compare to the blockchain, & much more.
Jason & I talk with the Commercial Director of Holo/Holochain, David Atkinson. They cover what led David to the Holo team, systems thinking, biomimicry & evolution, the core elements of Holochain, how it compares to the blockchain, scalability, centralization vs decentralization, some potential impacts of this tech, its current phase of development, and much more.
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#26 The New Left
We talk with Michael Brooks about his show, why politics needs spirituality, markets vs capitalism, centralization vs decentralization, & much more.
Jason & I talk with Michael Brooks about what his show (TMBS) is about, his history with Integral Theory & meditation, his political perspective, the Kurdish situation in Rojava, dangers of idealism & ahistorical thinking, why politics needs spirituality, Michael's view on today's political narratives, his recent meditation retreat, how the Four Quadrants of Integral could impact political discourse, markets vs capitalism, centralization vs decentralization, fractal localism, and much more.
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Exiting the Vampire Castle by Mark Fisher
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#25 Horrorism & Culture
We talk with the anonymous horrorist, Zero about his new book, his creative process, the self & culture, contemplation, pain & suffering, hierarchies, cultural colonialism, & much more.
Jason & I talk with horrorist, Zero HP Lovecraft about why he started writing & where his alias came from, his new book, his creative process & influences, the horrorist aesthetic, the unknowability of our own values, the self & culture as software, media's impact on culture, his view on the future & contemplative development, euphoric depersonalization, the role of pain & suffering, societal hierarchies, cultural colonialism & design, chaos & order, and much more.
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#24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze
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#24 Religion, Creativity & Deleuze
We talk with political scientist Justin Murphy about being an independent creator & a libertarian communist, human equality, his new book Based Deleuze, and more.
Jason & I talk with political scientist Justin Murphy about his path to becoming an independent artist & intellectual, what it means to him to be a libertarian communist, foundations of intrinsic human equality, his unique take on Gilles Deleuze in his new book Based Deleuze, creativity, Urbit and more.
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#22 Meta-Rationality & Sexuality
We talk with Jessica (@ssica3003) about her path to meta-rationality and how it relates to bisexuality & polyamory, her views on politics, cultural, and much more!
Jason & I have a wide-ranging chat with Jessica (@ssica3003) about her path to meta-rationality, her views on feminism, activism, post-modernism, men's rights, restorative vs retributive justice, utopian thinking, how meta-rationality relates & connects to bisexual life, polyamory, incels, cultural design, and much more!
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Jessica's blog and YouTube Channel
David Chapman & his website, Meaningness
Summary of Kegan Stage 5 Principles
#16 Mind Fitness & Gender with Chance Lunceford
Azathoth Egregore: "An Alien God"
#20 What's Metamodern
We talk with Linda Ceriello & Greg Dember about why they started What Is Metamodern?, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Listening Society, and much more!
Jason & I talk with Linda Ceriello and Greg Dember about metamodernism as a cultural sensibility, traditionalism, modernism, postmodernism, what led them to start What Is Metamodern?, metamodern methods that media commonly uses, the ways metamodernism is interpreted, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, The Listening Society, and much more.
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Article: After Postmodernism: Eleven Metamodern Methods in the Arts
Journal Article: Notes on metamodernism
Essay: Taxonomy of Metamodern Monsters in Linda's essay (pages 213-214 - login required)
Greg & Linda Suggestions
Playlist: Metamodern Music: Indie Rock 1995-2005
Video Essay: Rick and Morty: Character Archetypes & Metamodernism
Video Essay: Jose Chung's The Bridge to the Metamodern
Book: Metamodernism: Historicity, Affect, and Depth after Postmodernism
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#19 Contextualizing the Spiritual
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#19 Contextualizing the Spiritual
We talk with Jordan Hall about how spirituality relates to sovereignty, deep code, virtuous feedback loops, robots, intuition, the weird and much more.
Jason & I talk with Jordan Hall about how spirituality relates to sovereignty, deep code, virtuous feedback loops, individual & cultural development, the logos of robots, intuition, the weird, parenthood and more!
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Jordan's Article on Sovereignty
ALTER EGO Video - Can Extinction Rebellion Unlock Collective Sacrifice?"
Recommended Jordan Interviews
Zion 2.0 Podcast: Part 1 - Distributed Intelligence & Part 2 - Our Future Sense-Making
Emerge Podcast: Sovereignty, Resonance, and Liminality
Rebel Wisdom: Deep Code: Jordan (Green)Hall Documentary
The Jim Rutt Show: Interview
Other Life Podcast: Deep Code with Jordan Hall
Intellectual Explorers Podcast: Interview
#18 Changing Systems
We talk with Evan Driscoll about what leads to dysfunctional systems, coordination, contemplative practice & much more!
Jason & I talk with Evan Driscoll about what leads to dysfunctional systems, coordination, social isolation, habits & behaviors that create better collective action, following our passions, burnout, hedonism, contemplative practice & more.
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#14 Paradigm Shifting
We talk with Erik Davis, thinker, author & podcast host about the effects of eclecticism, psychedelics, philosophy, spirituality, esotericism & much more.
Jason & I talk with Erik Davis, host of the Expanding Mind podcast, and author of the newly released book, High Weirdness. They discuss a wide range of topics, including eclecticism, psychedelics, philosophy, spirituality, existential dread, esotericism, capitalism meditation & more.
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Capitalist Realism by Mark Fisher
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#13 Problematizing Food Systems
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#12 Translating Philosophy
We talk with Stephen West about his amazing podcast, Philosophize This!, how philosophy is useful, it's limitations, and Steve's process & mindset for shares ideas.
Jason & I talk with Stephen West about why he started the wildly successful Philosophize This! podcast. Then, we go on to talk about the ways philosophy can be useful, it's possible limitations, and dive deep on how Steve's process & mindset affect the way he understands & shares the ideas he covers in the podcast.
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